Priests: Holy

Theorycrafting in a static environment..which WoW is not.

if you know how to play effectively you can get out of the 5 second rule, and stacking spirit will give you like 800 + mana per each of those amazing seconds.....and with good gear you should easily have over that i'm sure. This would mean that the priest, out side of casting, as 4000 spirit if he had no MP5, to get 800 mana returned a sec. None of our priests have this, last I checked. Patch 2.4 put into place a 1 spirit = 1 MP5 base over all casters, while not casting. that means holy conc procs...you dont immediately cast a heal...thats at least a couple seconds then you cast a heal that uses holy conc.....thats another second...then you use inner focus and by the time you use a greater heal, you are definitely out of the 5 second rule because you havent used any mana...you will be in 5sr land until you land another heal that uses mana. In a perfect world, maybe. CHA CHING, MANA 800 mana for even 2-3 seconds thats 1600-2400 mana bam. Timing this isnt the easiest thing and takes a priest who probably plays it more than a couple hours a week to get used to and comfortable doing this. unfortunately for the fights you go crazy out of mana as a priest, its because you are spamming COH or your healing council and multiple targets. Or your on BB tnaks, or BB gorups and then move to the felrage tank, or Mother healing craptastically since your in SR gear, or other bosses. Spirit regen and the FSR is not as easy as that and that is why you have Spriest to help give mana back, as well as totems. These all help offset the MP5 loss that you can't get from spirit because of FSR.

I do want to point out that I have not touched the +healing aspect (in any posts) and all I am talking about is the mana regen aspect of spirit. I do not play a holy priest so they need to take that into consideration. I only bring in the Mana regen thought, since this is prevalent to all casters.

Why would you.. especially as a priest, value 1 mp5 more than 1 spirit? You are not looking at the bigger picture. As a healing priest, would you EVER not have Meditation? I'd hope not. That talent alone makes Spirit > Mp5. Now with 2.4 Spirit got a huge boost. Add in buffs... Kings is usually more usefull to a priest than wisdom is. THEN add spiritual guidance on top of that, you get +healing from spirit. You dont get +healing from MP% If you nee it spelled out to you nice and easy, I'd recommend you go and download ratingbuster and just look at the numbers.

The author of Ratingsbuster is the one that figured out the 1 spirit = 1 mp5 out of FSR rule from 2.4 changes. See here http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mana_Regen This is also a game so play how you want to play.

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Healing is not about 1 thing. Comparing mp5 and spirit in isolation is fuckin retarded. ITS ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE. if you know how to play effectively you can get out of the 5 second rule, and stacking spirit will give you like 800 + mana per each of those amazing seconds.....and with good gear you should easily have over that i'm sure. spirit helps your + healing as well, spirit scales as flynne mentioned, spirit wins, if you want to use MP5 as a priest and take that over spirit, be a fucking pally or shaman. that means holy conc procs...you dont immediately cast a heal...thats at least a couple seconds then you cast a heal that uses holy conc.....thats another second...then you use inner focus and by the time you use a greater heal, you are definitely out of the 5 second rule because you havent used any mana...you will be in 5sr land until you land another heal that uses mana. CHA CHING, MANA 800 mana for even 2-3 seconds thats 1600-2400 mana bam. Timing this isnt the easiest thing and takes a priest who probably plays it more than a couple hours a week to get used to and comfortable doing this. unfortunately for the fights you go crazy out of mana as a priest, its because you are spamming COH or your healing council and multiple targets. <whisper>psst...Dee, I think you are confusing the 800 mana regen that *is* actually obtainable by stacking spirit...the 800 is mana per 5 seconds, not mana per second, which, as Nynaeve pointed out, is not obtainable. We'd *never* run out of mana if it was mana per second. Just thought I'd point that out.</whisper>

lol flynne.... gold star for that one!

ill stick to the original argument then. spirit > MP5. i hate wow which is why im not playing it anymore.

ill stick to the original argument then. spirit > MP5. i hate wow which is why im not playing it anymore. Dear Dee, Please come back, we miss you. Sincerely, The PR scrubs.

im still here eating shears, but that will no longer be possible after today's patch, so i'm glad i got my money's worth last night.

im still here eating shears, but that will no longer be possible after today's patch, so i'm glad i got my money's worth last night. Dear Dee, Stop being a dickhead and come back. Sincerely, The PR Scrubs.

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