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Anonymous- 03-27-2008
Priests: Holy
Please list zone / boss / % chance it drops -- and what it will upgrade and how much of an upgrade it is. Please do nto list PVP gear or badge gear...list items that are an actual upgrade and not sidegrades.

Flynne- 03-27-2008

I'd actually be interested in hearing from the other holy priests how they value each stat. In other words, how do you determine if one item is better than another item? Examples: Obviously something that gives +100 healing is better than something that gives +90 healing. Obviously +100 healing is better than 1 mana per 5 seconds. But... Is +100 healing better than 15 mp5? How about 20 mp5? Well, here are the values I've come up with when comparing gear... I base everything on +healing. socket = 27 mp5 = 9 spirit = 3.33 +healing = 1 intellect = 1 stamina = 0.25 So, just real quick, if you have an item with 2 sockets and +100 healing, it's score would be 2 * 27 + 100 * 1 = 154. Anyway, these are the numbers I've come up with so far...I'd love to hear why you agree, but more importantly, why you disagree with them...always trying to figure out the best gear, right? ;) Flame away! :)

Math- 03-27-2008

It depends on how you play priest. The stats you should be most concerned with are as follows, in no particular order: Spell Haste: I'm undecided on this stat. I assume it's situational powerful, especially with the global cooldown reduction and coh. I'll likely avoid stacking it in anyway significant way for the time being. I don't believe most MH/BT priests have stacked it in a significant way. It might become more popular for priests with the regen buffs. +Healing: This is obvious. Spirit: adds to your regen oo5s rule in a big way. Inside the 5s rule it adds less. Adds to your +healing as well. MP5: MP5 has the same effect in and out of the 5s rule. Int: Increases the size of your mana pool. Also increases the amount of of mana you gain per point of spirit. Int is significantly better in 2.4. Stamina: All priests should have a set of gear with a little more stamina on it, especially going into MH/BT. Pick up some pvp gear as you can to switch it in on fights you need it. The guild doesn't understand the value of pvp gear at all, so we won't reward you for picking it up. In fact if you don't have a pve counterpart, we'll punish you O.o I'd recommend having a few pieces regardless. I find it quite useful. That being said, what stats you value depends on how you play your priest. If you never find yourself outside the 5s rule, you probably value mp5 higher than I would. I do my best to exploit any opportunity to exit the 5s rule, and thus stacking spirit makes much more sense for me. Spirit was buffed a ton in 2.4 too. I'm reluctant to provide a "100 healing = 50 spirit = 30 mp5" type of formula, since it varies by play style. In general when selecting gear, avoid anything that stacks one or two stats heavily. The more balanced an item the more bang you get for your buck, generally.

Flynne- 06-04-2008

Finally got around to actually listing what upgrades I'd like to get. This list is only taking into consideration the bosses we are currently killing or working on killing and is in order of degree of upgrade: Lurker (SSC) - Earring of Soulful Meditation (Trinket) Gurtogg Bloodboil (BT) - Staff of Immaculate Recovery (Staff) Vashj (SSC) - (T5)Cowl of the Avatar (Head) Shade of Akama (BT) - Amice of Brilliant Light (Shoulder) Teron Gorefiend (BT) - Cowl of Benevolence (Head) FLK (SSC) - (T5)Breeches of the Avatar (Pants) Vashj (SSC) - Lightfathom Scepter (Mace) Solarian (TK) - Ethereium Life-Staff (Staff) Azgalor (MH) - (T6)Gloves of Absolution (Gloves) Rage Winterchill (MH) - Bracers of Martyrdom (Bracers) Vashj (SSC) - Coral Band of the Revived (Ring) I'm also working on getting the badges to get the pants which are practically as good as the T5 pants, so that is of much lower importance than the others. Also, I included both the staff from Solarian and the mace from Vashj. While I would prefer the mace, realistically it probably won't happen considering the difficulty of the two bosses. The staff is *almost* as good, and I would be happy to get either one. Edit: I just added in the Staff of Immaculate Recovery from Gurtogg...it's better than the mace from Vashj and the staff from Solarian. :) Kinda funny that right now the item I most want drops from about the easiest boss we're killing. ;)

Mikkie- 08-28-2008

I need a new hat badly. Mine's all tarnished n stuff. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29049 I'd like this one cuz it's nifty: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32329

MeCh- 09-04-2008

Mp5 is obsolete compared to spirit. Spell haste is bad for CoH, you're not going to be spamming it every second.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

true story my wise jedi master.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

Mp5 is obsolete compared to spirit. Spell haste is bad for CoH, you're not going to be spamming it every second. to get a 1:1 ratio while casting for Mp5:Spirit, it would require such a high amount of intellect that is not attainable in the game at the moment (i'm pretty sure 1800 int is out of reach). now you can say well i only need 70% of that to balance out the talent that increases your +heal from spirit, but you will have spent so many stats in intellect that you will not have any room at all for spirit. i'm not saying that Spirit is good or bad, but saying that Spirit > mp5 on a 1:1 basis is just incorrect theory craft. You need to find a balance between the two that works for you. and when Spamming CoH, you inside the 5 second rule so spirit's out of casting regen can not be counted.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

im pretty sure he was referring to Mikkie who is a priest..... priest = spirit is king........................... gives you + heal and + mana regenz.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

also the name of this topic is Holy Priests

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

Hooked on phonics worked for me!!!

Sysop- 09-04-2008

MeCh will not feel the need to answer this.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

goes back to my example though.... overthink the simple stuff.... like we werent talking about pallies.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

and i was talking about priests, not pallies.

Anonymous- 09-04-2008

balancing stats is implied. were at a point in game where people SHOULD know this stuff. I'm done posting. Make 10 alts and not be able to play any of them well is the fun way to play this game and not care or know what you are doing.

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